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Jan Wiklund's avatar

Bo Rothstein suggests (taking his cue from David Ellerman) that capitalism is a system where capital hires labour, and thus governs, but that it would be possible with a system where labour hires capital. That would be a cooperative system. Equally dependent om markets as the capitalist system, perhaps more dependent, since capitalists do whatever they can to fight against markets to dominate them, as Immanuel Wallerstein posed it.

The question is if it is practically possible. Branko Milanovic thought not, seeing the result of Yugoslavia, but possibly cooperatives must be at least as supplemented by a developmentalist state (see Luiz Carlos Bresser Ferreira about what that is) as capitalist businesses are, not to rot. And I have never heard that Yugoslavia was particularly developmentalist.

Another question is how to come there. The present system must be challenged by very determined and well-organized people. Perhaps that would be theoretically possible the next financial crisis, provided that trade unions and other organizations in the productive sphere deem it necessary. But that would require a revolution within, since in a cooperative society the trade union employees who now control that system would have a very small place indeed.

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David Cameron's avatar

unsystematized barter combined with gifting (which naturally arrises in any community that employs barter) gets the job done if: the area and population are large enough and resource-rich enough, including human capability. A severely diminished and industrially-dependent resource-base is one of our biggest challenges going forward. Often there is a distribution problem such as land availability, based on legacy ownership patterns. Diminished fresh-water resources and blocked rivers are other examples of legacy barriers to future prosperity/survival. However as we must necessarily work with what we have, salvage, local production of food/energy/water/materials and functional trade-capability (mobile traders) & most importantly collectivity education (priority of the common good which includes all our relations) will see us fed/clothed/sheltered/healed/loved/cared-for in mind/body/emotion/spirit.

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